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Felony Murder - DWI

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August 29, 2006, 14:03
John L. Pool
Felony Murder - DWI
Just FYI. My case was recently upheld by the Eighth Court of Appeals.

http://www.8thcoa.courts.state.tx.us/opinions/case.asp?FilingID=68956

So now the three original cases in the order they were filed (Harris, Andrews, and Tarrant) have all been upheld on the first round of appeals.

John L. Pool
August 29, 2006, 15:42
Gordon LeMaire
Congratulations
August 30, 2006, 00:13
BLeonard
This Monday, I used the DWI-based felony murder example to explain felony-murder. You should have seen the heads nodding in the affirmitive
June 27, 2007, 09:18
david curl
Lomax affirmed


http://www.cca.courts.state.tx.us/OPINIONS/HTMLOPINIONINFO.ASP?OPINIONID=15619
June 27, 2007, 23:14
AlexLayman
It kinda bothers me that some people who pled guilty to DWI now have this extra sword hanging over their heads.

I really don't feel all that sorry for a repeat DWI offender that kills someone but felony murder is a sort of a big deal.
June 28, 2007, 07:48
Richard Alpert
Congrats to you John. As to Felony Murder being a big deal, the same could be said for being killed by a drunk driver who has failed to appreciate the danger he poses to others by committing the offense of DWI on two prior occassions. That is the motivation for wanting to give the jurors the option of a higher range of punishment.
June 28, 2007, 08:12
JB
Cultural changes do not come easy. The notion that it is OK to risk driving home drunk is a cultural problem. Seeing a drunk person can be a cause for laughter. Heck, town drunks are famous for being funny and wise throughout literature. They are the court jesters of old.

That same drunk in a several ton SUV or truck is not quite so wise or funny. So, as prosecutors, we are part of the energy being used to change cultural norms.

One way we change opinion is to prosecute people and punish in ways that get the attention of those with otherwise short or non-existent attention spans. Drunks are notorious for claiming to change and then forgetting. So, if a felony murder prosecution is what it takes to move the norm, I'm all for it.

As Richard notes, the person already got a couple smacks upside the head from the criminal justice system. That not having worked, it is very reasonable, at least to me, to hold them responsible for what is really a reckless and perhaps deliberate act leading to a death.
June 28, 2007, 09:43
WHM
I'm not troubled at all by it. It's not like felony murder carries a death sentence, or even automatic life. The circumstances of the case clearly would allow a judge or jury to take the individuals moral culpability into account. It raises the minimum punishment only slightly, and the maximum punishment is only potential until the jury makes a judgment on the facts of the individual case. One other point: it's not the two prior guilty pleas that makes someone a felony murderer; it's getting drunk, driving, and killing someone else. Felony murder is only a "big deal" if you commit it--and it's pretty easy to not commit DWI.
July 04, 2007, 12:40
Gordon D
We have a felony murder via DWI 3rd coming up for trial and were set to deal with a Motion to Quash based on the culpable mental state and in pari materia arguments. I had a "cite alert" set on Lomax. The decision was posted on this forum two days before my cite alert let me know about the decision. My boss was reading the forum and stumbled upon it afternoon of the 27th and defense simply withdrew their motion when we pointed out Lomax to them before the hearings the next day. Way to make us look good, guys.
July 04, 2007, 20:12
GG
quote:
Originally posted by AlexLayman:
It kinda bothers me that some people who pled guilty to DWI now have this extra sword hanging over their heads.

I really don't feel all that sorry for a repeat DWI offender that kills someone but felony murder is a sort of a big deal.


Me thinks being dead is a much, much bigger deal than being a killer, who is still alive to cause more heartbreak.