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August 06, 2012, 13:54
JohnR
Note to capital case defense experts
So is violence inside on the rise? Your daily log makes it seem like it is.
August 07, 2012, 08:34
MDK27
Has anyone stopped to think that these people are driven to murder by the abuse they suffered as children, because they were poor, and had a learning disability, and were from a disadvantaged minority group, or were the subject of reverse discrimination? Or how about the ravages of their drug addiction, and their inability to reform because they couldn't grasp the concept of probation, parole, AA, NA, and psychologists and psychiatrists? Or the fact that their psychotropic medications made them feel "funny", or because they couldn't afford their ED medication? How many of these poor souls were victims of the "War on Christmas"?

One thousand and one reasons - no excuses................Big Grin
August 07, 2012, 08:39
MDK27
Oh yeah, I forgot....... Lack of access to proper dental care - those abscessed teeth can drive you to murder, too..........
August 07, 2012, 08:41
Gordon LeMaire
quote:
Has anyone stopped to think that these people are driven to murder by the abuse they suffered as children, because they were poor, and had a learning disability, and were from a disadvantaged minority group, or were the subject of reverse discrimination? Or how about the ravages of their drug addiction, and their inability to reform because they couldn't grasp the concept of probation, parole, AA, NA, and psychologists and psychiatrists? Or the fact that their psychotropic medications made them feel "funny", or because they couldn't afford their ED medication? How many of these poor souls were victims of the "War on Christmas"?


Only. Every. Single. Expert.
August 07, 2012, 09:17
Gretchen
quote:
Only. Every. Single. Defense. Expert.


FTFY
August 07, 2012, 10:18
Martha W. Warner
A.P.

How many capital Murders have we had out of the McConnell Unit in Beeville over the last 2-3 years?
August 07, 2012, 10:58
A.P. Merillat
Since Officer Dan Nagle was murdered on 12-17-99, there have been at least 3 other murders at the McConnell Unit.  Various forms of capital killings by way of the killer serving time for 3G offense, also multiple defendants (OCA), etc.   
August 07, 2012, 10:59
Gordon LeMaire
Gretchen, you are right. My bad.
August 08, 2012, 08:23
A.P. Merillat
Killings #10 & 11


Amid a profound media and civil liberties proponents revelation of the level of violence in the Texas prison -- which is actually NO pronouncement at all, two more homicides have been committed by incarcerated felons, serving time in Texas prison units. There have not been eleven killings in one year in TDCJ since 1997.

#10: At the Robertson maximum security prison, Elasko Thomas, a 38-year-old G5, living in 8 building, which is where the inmates who are one foot out of Ad Seg live, had his throat cut by his cellmate, Michael DeLoach, another G5 inmate, gang member, convicted murderer out of Harris County.

#11: During a July 31, 2012 "disturbance" (we call it a riot) involving at least 36 inmates at the Estelle unit in Walker County, Billy De Los Santos, G4 suffered severe head injuries. He died yesterday.

John: the numbers speak for themselves. Also, it wouldn't be a regular posting if convicts would quit killing each other inside the guarded, walled, monitored penitentiary. I am not qualified to say whether or not the level of violence is increasing. But I sincerely hope that, in future capital cases, when the defense puts on their hired gun experts who have retired from TDCJ, prosecutors will call those questionable characters to account for what is true and proveable.
August 08, 2012, 08:48
JohnR
this thread is really making the point.
August 20, 2012, 15:43
GG
Seems like prisons, particularly in general population on a life sentence, are a mighty dangerous place to be.
September 30, 2012, 15:01
A.P. Merillat
Number 12 for the year

September 29, 2012: Another convicted felon, serving out his sentence in the safe, secure and peace-prone Texas prison system has been killed.

I don't think convicts are paying attention to the claims that the prison is much more secure now than it was in years past. Maybe you bloggers should make sure they get your articles, so they can adjust their behavior to match your postulations. And by the way Dr. S., the cellmate who did the damage is 43 years old -- he didn't know he was supposed to be "aged-out" as you like to tell juries.

Victim: Wardell, Travis County agg robbery w/dw, 10-year sentence. "Suspect" (locked in the cell with him) Barefield, Tarrant County burglar, doing a whopping 5-years. Both of them were G5, you know, the worst of the general population inmates, living together.
December 02, 2012, 09:11
JB
Prison officials say the near quadrupling of the murder total appears to be an anomaly without a single cause — a deadly uptick that neighboring states say they haven’t seen, though they have seen increased violence overall, which Texas has not.

Details.
December 02, 2012, 10:55
JohnR
Why the difference between AP's number and the Statesman's?
December 03, 2012, 10:14
A.P. Merillat
1) 2-21-12: Allen Burbaker, killed by Chargualaf at the Hughes Unit.

2) 2-28-12 (date of death, assaulted on 2-19-12): Edwin Doty, at the alleged hands of Watkins at the Scott Unit.

3) 2-29-12: George McCottery, by LWOP Capital Murderer Wilson, Telford Unit.

4) 4-4-12: Sperling killed by cellmate Daniels at the Estelle Unit.

5) 6-4-12 (date of death, assaulted on 6-3): Mark Rauls, assaulted by Vernon in the Middleton Unit dorm.

6) 6-7-12: Vasquez, killed by Whitaker at the Michael Unit.

7) 7-1-12 (date of death): Another Middleton Unit homicide - Inmate Dickerson by Miller in the dorm dayroom.

8) 7-8-12: D. Roebuck in his cell by Jiminez, at the Diboll private prison.

9) 8-2-12 (date of death, assaulted on 7-29-12): Joe Hernandez by suspect(s) still being determined, at the W. Texas ISF.

10) 8-7-12: Thomas killed by cellmate DeLoach at the Robertson Unit.

11) 8-7-12 (date of death, assaulted in a riot on 7-31-12): DeLosSantos -- 35 other convicts involved in the altercation at the Estelle Unit.

12) 9-29-12: Waddell, by cellmate Barefield at the Allred Unit.
December 03, 2012, 10:55
GG
quote:
Originally posted by MDK27:
Has anyone stopped to think that these people are driven to murder by the abuse they suffered as children, because they were poor, and had a learning disability, and were from a disadvantaged minority group, or were the subject of reverse discrimination? Or how about the ravages of their drug addiction, and their inability to reform because they couldn't grasp the concept of probation, parole, AA, NA, and psychologists and psychiatrists? Or the fact that their psychotropic medications made them feel "funny", or because they couldn't afford their ED medication? How many of these poor souls were victims of the "War on Christmas"?

One thousand and one reasons - no excuses................Big Grin


Or because they had a crappy lawyer.
March 14, 2013, 14:32
A.P. Merillat
Continuing the tradition of peace and safety...

First homicide of 2013: Inmate Benton tied up and beaten by his cellie, 43-year-old Jesus Galindo. Assaulted on January 28, died on February 2. 177 total killings since 1984 - since at least that year, there has never been a year without at least one prison homicide.
March 29, 2013, 14:34
JB
Dallas article says escapes are down.

What do you think?

Details.

One explanation for a drop in escapes: prison is the place to meet people and network.

Details.

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June 05, 2013, 10:53
A.P. Merillat
#2 for 2013

June 4, 2013 at the Price Daniel Unit, inmate Rice, serving 40 years out of Bell County, allegedly killed inmate Gray who was serving 7 years out of Smith County. This was before inmate Rice allegedly jumped on the back of a correctional officer and put a shank to the officer's neck, as the guard was about to discover the crime. They were able to gas Rice before he stabbed the officer, but too late for inmate Gray.

178 homicides inside Texas prisons since 1984. Still has never been a year without at least one prison killing, contrary to the testimony of at least one defense expert.
July 29, 2013, 11:53
A.P. Merillat
#3

July 22, 2013 at the Connally Unit. Inmate Gonzales, serving LIFE for murder out of Dallas County, allegedly tied his cellmate to the desk in the cell and beat him to an alleged and brutal death with a fan motor.

Both of them G4, two notches before Ad Seg, living together in 8 building.