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Unlikable, Unsympathetic Murder Victims
February 23, 2009, 19:39
DPBUnlikable, Unsympathetic Murder Victims
So, Dude, have you gotten enough responses?
February 24, 2009, 09:16
jwsI bet that boy who shot his abuser in Houston gets no-billed. So far I've got a crack whore, a porn actress, a drug addict, and a homeless man. If anyone has any other examples of their unsympathetic victims, cool photos, visual aids, voir dire or argument tips, I'm still collecting info.
February 24, 2009, 09:38
Ken Sparksand a presidential assassin!
February 24, 2009, 09:42
russell wilsonBack when Tom Krampitz was Executive Director of the TDCAA, he had a sign on the wall of his office that went something like this:
The three immutable truths of prosecution:
1. Sin ain't sin when good people do it.
2. Blood is thicker than water.
3. It ain't against the law to kill a SOB.
Of course Tom's sign spelled out SOB.
February 24, 2009, 11:06
jwsFunny, but not usable material. Seriously, I need material! (I was going to say I needed help, but I could just see the responses that would get.)
Still looking for material for my speech on unlikable victims. I really need stories about drug dealers or gang members. I'm also looking for theme songs for the different categories of unlikable victims. I can't think of any songs about perverts/child molesters, other than Keith Moon's "Uncle Ernie" song. Lesser-Includeds, do you have any song ideas?
March 25, 2009, 13:06
Andrea WI think you need the Dixie Chicks' "Goodbye Earl" for unsympathetic murder defendants. (Wherein the Chicks murder the no-good abusing husband of a friend by slipping poison in his black-eyed peas and then putting him in the trunk.)
I'm coming up blank on the child molesters' song, though. I'll keep thinking about it.
March 25, 2009, 13:18
A.P. Merillat"Bubba Shot the Jukebox"
Stinkin', no-good-for-nothing jukebox got what it deserved, but Bubba shouldn't have taken the law into his own hands.
March 25, 2009, 13:51
Scott Brumley"Francine" by ZZ Top.
March 25, 2009, 14:05
John TalleyHow about Martina McBride*s Independence Day?
*Well word gets a round in a small, small town they said he was a dangerous man
But mama was proud and she stood her ground she knew she was on the losin? end
Some folks whispered some folks talked but everybody looked the other way and
When time ran out there was no one about on indpendence day
Chours: let freedom ring, let the white dove sing let the whole world know that
Today is a day of reckoning let the weak be strong, let the right be wrong roll
The stone away, let the guilty pay, it?s independence day*
March 25, 2009, 14:30
C. Allen"Brenda's Got a Baby" - 2Pac
March 25, 2009, 14:37
Scott BrumleyThree possibilities come to mind:
1. "Come Out and Play" by The Offspring
2. "Teenage Jail" by the Eagles
3. "White Punks on Dope" by the Tubes
For your dealers, perhaps "Smuggler's Blues" by Glenn Frey is a fitting requiem. Or "Dr. Feelgood" by Motley Crue.
janie's got a gun
Isn't that about Janie shooting her molester daddy?
March 25, 2009, 16:01
GretchenPapa Loved Mama (Garth Brooks)
The problem with country songs is that they take too long to tell the story. I need catchy clips.
Did I mention the show Dexter?
March 25, 2009, 21:31
GretchenI thought Papa Loved Mama was catchy and quick:
Mama was a looker, lord how she shined
Papa was a goodn but the jealous kind
Papa loved Mama; Mama loved men
Mama's in the graveyard, Papa's in the pen.
See!? Short 'n sweet!

March 26, 2009, 07:34
P.D. RayI suggested that yesterday to her, Gretchen. She didn't like the last verse either:
Well, the picture in the paper showed the scene real well
Papas rig was buried in the local motel
The desk clerk said he saw it all real clear
He never hit the brakes and he was shifting gears.
March 26, 2009, 12:34
John DodsonJanie's Got a Gun - Aerosmith
March 26, 2009, 19:33
GretchenOK, no country....
"Wake Up Call" by Maroon 5.