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December 21, 2006, 17:33
AlexLayman
Teen Fights Removal of Bullet in Head
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Texas Teenager Fighting Efforts by Police to Remove Bullet From Head

By JUAN A. LOZANO Associated Press Writer
The Associated Press


PORT ARTHUR, Texas - In the middle of Joshua Bush's forehead, two inches above his eyes, lies the evidence that prosecutors say could send the teenager to prison for attempted murder: a 9 mm bullet, lodged just under the skin.

Prosecutors say it will prove that Bush, 17, tried to kill the owner of a used-car lot after a robbery in July. And they have obtained a search warrant to extract the slug.

But Bush and his lawyer are fighting the removal, in a legal and medical oddity that raises questions about patient privacy and how far the government can go to solve crimes without running afoul of the constitutional protection against unreasonable searches and seizures.

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December 21, 2006, 23:14
Boyd Kennedy
No reasonable person would want a bullet removed from his head at govt. expense. Especially if the surgery is non-life threatening and would clear him of a violent crime. Roll Eyes
December 22, 2006, 09:56
GG
You're a funny man, Boyd!

I wonder if this guy will end up like...

Phinneus Gage was a foreman on the railway. An explosion accidentally sent a 3 foot long, 13 lb. metal rod into his skull, removing his left frontal lobe. He survived somehow and the only damage done was a dramatic change in personality. Before the accident he was "dependable, industrious, well liked." When he recovered, he was "restless, loud, profane, and impulsive." His doctor described him as "manifesting little deference to his fellows, impatient of restraint or advice when it conflicts with his desires, at times pertinaciously obstinate, yet capricious and vacillating, devising many plans of future operations, which are no sooner arranged than they are abandoned."
December 22, 2006, 10:16
A.P. Merillat
Ohhhh, he became a defense lawyer.
December 22, 2006, 10:35
David Newell
didn't he give implied consent to the removal of the bullet when he got his driver's license?
December 22, 2006, 10:57
Gretchen
His rights as a patient might trump, but in that event, does anyone think he could face a charge of tampering (intentionally concealing physical evidence)? And would anyone file the case, even if it technically meets the definition?
December 22, 2006, 11:03
GG
quote:
Originally posted by David Newell:
didn't he give implied consent to the removal of the bullet when he got his driver's license?


BINGO! That's why Newell is a guru of zee lew!
December 22, 2006, 11:05
David Newell
necessity?

newell is clown shoes.
December 22, 2006, 11:10
GG
Newell is almost as funny as Tucker Max, if you know who that is.
December 22, 2006, 15:23
Monkberrymoon
quote:
the soft, fatty tissue of his forehead


A Neanderthal, perhaps?
December 26, 2006, 19:09
Martin Peterson
This kid is not a patient. He is not asking for medical treatment. Yes, it may take a medical procedure to obtain the evidence, but it does not sound that much more complicated (or at least dangerous) than a blood draw. Similar searches have been authorized and successfully completed. E.g., Ex parte Johnson, 452 So.2d 888, 521 So.2d at 1014-5. I can see why a hospital would hesitate for civil liability reasons, but that hardly presents an ethical dilemma. The State is the true "patient" or "customer" in this situation.
January 29, 2007, 12:19
Jimbeaux
Unfortunately, we don't get to find out an answer:
Police drop fight to remove bullet from teen
January 29, 2007, 13:11
JB
If this were on CSI, they would have some sort of modern camera that could produce an image of the bullet without removing from the patient's head. The image would connect to a national database and identify the stolen weapon used to fire the bullet. Probably could even get a fingerprint off the side of the bullet.
January 29, 2007, 13:44
JMH
and all done in about 30-45 minutes
January 29, 2007, 14:41
JAS
And the jury will probably wonder why it didn't happen in this case! The frauds that TV shows perpetrate on the unwitting public.

JAS
May 13, 2008, 20:31
Shannon Edmonds
Groves teen with bullet in head pleads guilty

By RYAN MYERS, The Beaumont Enterprise
05/13/2008

A last-minute plea deal Monday likely will end a two-year constitutional rights saga involving forced surgical attempts to remove a bullet from the forehead of a Groves teen.

Joshua Adam Bush, 19, will be sentenced next month after pleading guilty Monday to two of the six felony charges he faced.

With a jury panel waiting in the hallway, Bush accepted a new plea deal from prosecutors, dismissing the remaining four charges and capping his punishment at 10 years in prison.

Had he gone to trial, Bush could have faced up to life in prison.

For the full article, click HERE.
May 13, 2008, 20:34
Shannon Edmonds
Here's a picture of Mr. Bush pointing to the bullet in his head. Now that he is pleading guilty to twice shooting a firearm at his fellow citizens during the course of various and sundry criminal endeavors, I'll let y'all provide an appropriate caption (remembering to stay within the bounds of propriety, of course) ...


May 13, 2008, 21:45
David Newell
See that? That's an extra three hours in line at the airport, right there.
May 13, 2008, 22:00
RWDickson
...or at least drop four of six.
May 13, 2008, 22:14
Fresno Bob
For my next trick, I'll catch it in my teeth.