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| Texas judge's blood-alcohol test inadmissible Associated Press CLEBURNE, Texas - A judge has ruled that the results of a blood-alcohol test for State District Judge Elizabeth Berry taken in November cannot be used as evidence in her drunken driving case. Berry, 43, was charged with misdemeanor drunken driving Nov. 8 after lab results showed her blood-alcohol level was above the state's legal limit of 0.08 when she was driving. If convicted, Berry could be sentenced to up to 180 days in jail and fined $2,000. She remains free on $1,000 bond. Read the entire story here: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/6226434.html[This message was edited by Greg Gilleland on 01-23-09 at .] [This message was edited by Shannon Edmonds on 01-23-09 at .] |
| Posts: 2578 | Location: The Great State of Texas | Registered: December 26, 2001 |
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| Many courts would hold there was probable cause to effect a warrantless arrest for DWI on the "Alvarado facts." If that is true, then why would there be any doubt that evidence of that offense would be located in the judge's blood veins at the time of the search? Interesting that the hearing could take three hours. |
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| We did a mandatory weekend (Brazoria Co.) on July 4th last year. IMO, it did not go that well. The problem for cops is that we have to take the time to get a warrant, then drive to a hospital (which may be the opposite direction), then drive the offender to jail (which again may be opposite direction). A single DWI arrest in this scenario could easily take 4 hours. Most cops think it is a waste of time (that may sound terrible, but it is true). As far as I know, all county jails have a nurse on the staff. In my county, there is a registered nurse on call, and my understanding is that a RN is an authorized person to draw blood. Why can't we just drive the offender to jail instead of the hospital? All that is required is to provide the jail with gray top blood tubes. The warrant, blood and booking are then all accomplished in one location. As to the problem with analyzing the samples, DPS has regional crime labs in multiple cities. These labs should be able to process blood for alcohol (not drugs). In addition, county and regional crime labs may be utilized. It takes some coordination, but it can be done. Also, don't forget that urine is also a valid test as defined by PC 49. You just can't use the DIC papers to suspend the license. The other beauty of urine is that a qualified technician is not required. The officer can witness the urine sample in the restroom at the jail. By drawing half blood and half urine, you can cut the analysis time. |
| Posts: 5 | Location: lake jackson, tx | Registered: January 27, 2009 |
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| quote: Originally posted by rns: Also, don't forget that urine is also a valid test as defined by PC 49. You just can't use the DIC papers to suspend the license. The other beauty of urine is that a qualified technician is not required.
That's right, anyone can get a urine sample -- just wait for the arrested driver to fall asleep in the drunk tank, then put his hand in a glass of warm water. Of course, the collection part can be a little tricky, but anyone with small children should be able to handle it ... |
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| Most forensic labs will probably test urine with the same methodology as blood…i.e., gas chromatography. So methodology shouldn’t be the real issue if GC is used to test the sample. However, urine is not as precise for alcohol measurement. It’s a combination of readings from the past, all averaged together. That is, urine is added to bladder over lengthy periods of time.
Its great for telling us what a person did in the past, but as for telling us he is above .08 at a specific time, there are limitations.
Now if the urine test is .20 or something like that, then its rather difficult to be under .08 at time of driving....but when its closer to the critical level of .08, it becomes much more difficult to say someone is under or over. |
| Posts: 70 | Location: Ft. Worth, Texas | Registered: October 15, 2003 |
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| If the pee test is good enough for a probation revocation why isn't good enough for DWI?
If it isn't good enough for probation then why do they bother with it? |
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