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posted April 17, 2008 08:20
Can anyone tell me why a person is still eligible for probation when they have a juvenile conviction (TYC)....? I'd like to know where it is in the code.
 
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posted April 17, 2008 08:35Hide Post
They are still eligible because they have not been convicted. Rather, they were adjudicated. The Penal Code, CCP, and Rules of Evidence specifically state where you can use a juvenile adjudication for some other purpose. If a provision does not specifically say you can use a juvenile adjudication, it basically means you cannot.
 
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posted April 17, 2008 08:36Hide Post
Juveniles don't get convicted. They don't plead guilty. The plead true and are adjudicated. Semantics that make a difference. So, absent some special statute defining the juvenile adjudication as a conviction, it doesn't count. For a special statute, see Chapter 12, PC. No such statute in 42.12, CCP.
 
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posted April 17, 2008 08:44Hide Post
Thanks. That's what I needed to hear - I was going crazy looking for it in Ch. 42.
 
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posted April 17, 2008 09:55Hide Post
Make sure your kid's TYC trip was not for a state jail felony grade offense. There is some case law out there that makes such adjudication/dispositions to TYC ineligible for enhancement purposes.
 
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posted April 17, 2008 11:15Hide Post
I think there is some stuff in the family code that lays this out more specifically. I haven't been able to get my hands on it yet.
 
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posted April 18, 2008 09:55Hide Post
� 12.42. PENALTIES FOR REPEAT AND HABITUAL FELONY OFFENDERS.

(f) For the purposes of Subsections (a), (b), (c)(1), and
(e), an adjudication by a juvenile court under Section 54.03, Family Code, that a child engaged in delinquent conduct on or after January 1, 1996, constituting a felony offense for which the child is committed to the Texas Youth Commission under Section 54.04(d)(2), (d)(3), or (m), Family Code, or Section 54.05(f), Family Code, is a final felony conviction.
 
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